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Category: Translation - Hungarian
Approval Date: 6/22/2025 1:55 PM
Family Surname: Goldberger
Country: Hungary
Town: Nyiregyhaza

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My great great paternal grandparents had 13 children; David was youngest, born in 1862, He married Roza Grosz in 1889 in Nyiregyhaza and this is their gravestone in that Hungarian Jewish cemetery.I would appreciate translation of Hungarian into English. Thank you

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6/24/2025 1:03 PM

Dávid Goldberger 1862-1915
Mrs. Dávid Goldberger b. Róza Orosz 1869-1920
Our dear good Mother!
(May you) find here the calm that you could not find on Earth.
Your life was work and struggle, may your rest be tranquil, our dear good Mother!

6/24/2025 9:18 PM

Correction: the letter that I read as O is actually a G, and Mrs. Goldberger's maiden surname is correctly Grósz.

There's an 1889 marriage in Nyíregyháza which matches the names but not quite the dates on the tombstone. (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89KG-L15P?cat=274888&i=232&lang=en, film 4000276 image 233 of 559.)

39. Groom: Dávid Goldberger, stonecarver, birthplace Ab.-Szántó. Parents: the late Gerson Goldberger, bookseller; Chaje Wiesner, residence Ab. Szántó. Residence: Nyiregyháza. Born 8 April 1861, single.
Bride: Róza Grosz, birthplace H. Szoboszló. Parents: the late Lajos Grosz, cattle merchant; Vilma Goldstein. Residence: Nyiregyháza. Born 11(?) Sep. 1869, single.
Announcements: in Nyiregyháza, three times.
Wedding: 12 Feb 1889, Nyiregyháza.
Witnesses: Simon Schwartzer, Sámuel Guttmann.
Rabbi: Károly Friedmann.

JewishGen's index turns up three children for this couple:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89KG-L15S?cat=274888&i=249&lang=en 4000276 250/559
59. Lajos Goldberger, born 2 Dec 1890, male, legitimate
Father: Dávid Goldberger, stonecarver
Mother: Róza Grosz
Father's birthplace A. Szántó, mother's birthplace H. Szoboszló, parents' residence L. Kossuth street number 3.
Midwife Mrs. Weisz, circumcision in Nyiregyháza, 9 Dec., Ármin Kronenwirth, sponsor/witness Sámuel Guttmann, Nyíregyháza, tavern-keeper.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89KG-L1LR?cat=274888&i=287&lang=en 288/559
44. Géza Goldberger, 27 Nov 1892, male, legitimate
(only minor differences from Lajos's entry)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89KG-L1V8?cat=274888&i=341&lang=en 342/559
5 (105). Anna Goldberger, 17 Oct 1894, female, legitimate
(ditto)

And there's a birth registration in 1898 also in Nyiregyháza where the parents match most of the marriage record, except Mrs. Goldberger's age is off by two years. (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y3S9-9773?lang=en&cc=1452460&i=314, film 4531170 image 315 of 761.)

Number 1074. Dated in Nyiregyháza, 3 October 1898.
Informant: Ferencz Grosz, merchant's apprentice, residence Nyiregyháza (Kossuth street number 6), whom the below-written registrar knows personally.
Father: Dávid Goldberger, Jewish, stonecarver, residence Nyiregyháza (Kossuth street number 6), birthplace Abauj-Szántó, age 37 years.
Mother: Mrs. Dávid Goldberger born Róza Grósz, Jewish, homemaker, residence Nyiregyháza (Kossuth street number 6), birthplace Hajdu-Szoboszló, age 27 years.
Birth: Nyiregyháza (Kossuth street number 6), 30 September 1898, 5:30 a.m.
Child: girl, Jewish, Erzsébet.
Remark: Informant stated that he bears direct knowledge of the birth and was asked to make the report by the child's father.

(The street address is hard to decipher all four times it's written; it may actually say "Kossuth street 63".)

I am fairly confident that the marriage record and the births are the same couple, because the occupation is relatively unusual, and the birthplaces are consistent as well. Unfortunately, I can't check these details against either of their death records, because Nyíregyháza's civil registries were only filmed up to 1908.

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