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Category: Translation - Hungarian
Approval Date: 9/15/2021 11:46 AM
Family Surname: Reinitz, Vida
Country: Hungary
Town: Budapest
Date of Image: 1933

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I wish to know what is written in column 9 of this marriage record, under the heading "Utólagos bejegyzések. Kiigazítások".

The marriage occurred in 1933. I see the comments in column 9 reference dates in 1945 and later. I wonder if they clarify the fate of the groom.

Thank you

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9/15/2021 5:52 PM

Addenda and corrections
The husband was declared dead on 15 Jan 1945. Death register of Gyöngyös. no. 1/1954 10 Feb 1954. Dr. Lajos Hámori o.h. assistant registrar.
The text written in the current column is in error, I have stricken it. 18 April 1958 Mrs. Vilmos ?? assistant registrar.
Per agreement, all children to be born will follow the mother's religion. (Capital city mayor's decree 116/1933-IV.) 4 July 1933 József Hujber o.h.
The husband was declared dead on 15 January 1945. (Under no. 1/1954 in the death register of Gyöngyös.) 10 Febr. 1954. Dr. Lajos Hámori o.h. assistant registrar.

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"o.h." [s.k. _saját kezűleg_] means "signed by his/her own hand", and is used in copies of registers (like this one) to indicate a copied signature that was made in the original by someone other than the clerk filling out the rest of the entry. You'll notice that it applies to all of the registrars here except for Mrs. Unreadable, who actually signed after the entry made by her (unidentified) clerk.

I'm not sure what the scope of that "undo/delete" addendum was meant to be, but the first entry in the 1954 death register from Gyöngyös is indeed the death declaration of a man matching the groom:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPC3-92XF?i=636&cc=1452460&cat=997438
Number 1. Place of death: --, date of death: 15 Jan 1945.
Deceased: Nándor Reinitz, male, married, photographer's assistant, residence Budapest VII. Alsóerdősor street 36.
Birthplace: Gyöngyös, birthdate: 22 May 1905, parents: Jakab Reinitz, Julianna Braun
Spouse: Ilona Mária Vida, place of marriage: Budapest VIII, year of marriage: 1933
Cause of death: unknown
Remarks: Death declaration decree number II. 420. 331/1953/5 of the Central District Court Command of Budapest. (District of Gyöngyös registry supervisor no. 952-281/1953.) The court did not determine the place of death.
Entered 2 Jan 1954. Informant: --
Richard Kalocsai o.h. registrar.

9/15/2021 5:58 PM

And for completeness, the rest of the entry:

676. Budapest, 20 June 1933
Groom: Nándor Reinitz, photographer's assistant, Jewish, born Gyöngyös (Heves county), 16 May 1905, res. Budapest VII, Huszár street 5.
Parents: the late Jakab Reinitz, Juliánna Braun
Bride: Ilona Mária Vida, RCath, born Budapest, 16 April 1911, res. Budapest VIII, Baross street 77.
Parents: András Vida, the late Juliánna Németh
Witnesses: József Ribárits, Budapest VIII, Fecske street 10; Andor Fuchs, Budapest VII, Rottenbiller street 24.

9/15/2021 6:30 PM

And for even more complete completeness... :-)
The marriage register has his correct birthdate; the death register mistakenly used the date of the entry instead of the date of the event:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPC9-1M4?i=103&cc=1452460&cat=997438
Number 288. Dated in Gyöngyös, 22 May 1905.
Informant: the below-named father, known personally to assistant registrar
Father: Jakab Reinitz, Jewish, carpenter, residence Gyöngyös, Főtér house-number 16, birthplace Apáti, Abauj county, age 32 years
Mother: Mrs. Jakab Reinitz born Julianna Braun, Jewish, residence same as her husband, birthplace Piliny, Nógrád county, age 27 years
Birth: Gyöngyös, residence of parents, 16 May 1905, 2:30 p.m.
Child: boy, Jewish, Nándor
[Margin:] death under no. 1/1954. 2 Jan 1954, Richárd Kalocsai registrar.

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The father's birthplace is probably Gagyapáti, now in Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén county. Dvorzsák's gazetteer says Jewish residents were recorded in Szepsi, which is now Moldava nad Bodvou, Slovakia.

Dvorzsák had no information about Jewish residents of Piliny, but the nearest congregation was in Szécsény. Both places are still in Nógrád county, Hungary.

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