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Category: Translation - Hebrew
Approval Date: 7/7/2021 12:38 PM
Family Surname: Hormats
Country: USA
Date of Image: 1912

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This is a postcard written in Yiddish but with one sentence written in Hebrew upside down at the very top. I'd like a translation for just that one sentence. I hope you can rotate the card to view it OK. It has something to do with her address.
It was written by Freida Hormats in Buffalo NY to her sister in Jerusalem, and addressed to the sister's husband. The main message in Yiddish was:
"Dear sister, I'm sending you the picture of my two children zoln leben [“they should live”]. Dvorele is a year old biz hundert un tsvantsik [means “she should live till 120”] From dearest sister Frieda Hormats."
Thanks very much.

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7/7/2021 2:42 PM

ViewMate makes it very easy to rotate pictures, so that's not a problem.

The sentence that you refer to is actually also mostly in Yiddish. The translation is "this is the same address until Pinchas 5713, and forward in general."

You may know that a different Torah portion is read in the synagogue each Sabbath, and each portion has a unique name. One of these is "Pinchas". 5713 is the Hebrew year that began in September 1912 and ended in September 1913. During that year, the Torah Portion of Pinchas was read on July 19th, 1913. The postcard is postmarked July 30, 1912. This is only a guess, but it might mean that he had signed a one-year lease and therefore was planning to be at that address in Buffalo until at least July, 1913, but possibly longer.

7/8/2021 1:13 AM

The last two Hebrew words, (translated above above as "forward in general") when used in the context of giving a date simply mean "until and including the stated date".
So the sister is staying that will be her address until and including the Pinchas portion of the year 5673 (not the year written by the first translator). That would indeed by mid July 1913.

A fascinating way of defining the date of the address validity. Makes me wonder if the home owner was Jewish too, or else if the comment was added by the addressee.
Religious people often dated their letters (also birthdays, bar mitzvah dates and death dates) with this week's Torah portion.

https://www.hebcal.com/converter?hd=14&hm=Tamuz&hy=5673&i=on&h2g=1

7/8/2021 4:26 PM

Thank you to the second helper for the explanation of the two-word phrase "v'ad bichlal" as meaning "up to and including" a specific date. I had translated the words literally, never having encountered that phrase before. I'm always happy to learn something new.

And I apologize for my gross mistyping of the Hebrew year. I must have had it correct in my brain, or I would not have properly associated it with September 1912-September 1913. Apparently, however, my fingers have a wild mind of their own. :)

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