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Submitted by Mor Leich

Information Picture Question
Category: Translation - Hungarian
Approval Date: 9/6/2026 6:01 PM
Family Surname: Stern
Country: Romania
Town: Szatmar
Date of Image: 1904
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Hi please fully translate this record.
Thanks

https://descopera.arhivelenationale.ro/cota/?cid=9539531
Record 731

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9/8/2026 12:03 AM Dated in Szatmár-Németi, 21 November 1904.
Informant: the below-named natural father, whom the below-written assistant registrar knows personally.
Natural father: Efraim Stern, Jewish, chandler, residence Szatmárnémeti, Alsószamospart ("lower Szamos riverbank") number 16, birthplace Mihálydi, Szabolcs county, age 23 years
Mother: Rina Goldberger, Jewish, chambermaid, residence the natural father's dwelling, birthplace Nagy-Tárkány, age 23 years
Birth: the natural father's dwelling, 16 November 1904, 6 a.m.
Child: girl, Jewish, Leona
Remarks: Efraim Stern declared that he was present for the birth and that he acknowledges the child as his own. In the pre-printed text, the word "legal" has been crossed out and replaced with "natural".
Read forth, approved, and signed. Stern Efrajem informant.
(Margin:) Dated in Szatmár-Németi, 27 September 1906.
There appeared before the below-written assistant registrar one Efraim Stern, of Jewish religion, of Mihálydi birth, Szatmár Németi residence, 25-year-old Talmud teacher, whom the below-written assistant registrar knows personally, and declared that the herein-entered and acknowledged as his own child's mother Lina Goldberger and he were married in the I. district registry office on 14 September 1906 per entry number 171.
Read forth, approved, and signed. Stern Efrajem.

https://descopera.arhivelenationale.ro/cota/?cid=9539569
SM-FD-00156-1-037_04.PDF, image 4 of 130
Number 171. Dated in Szatmár-Németi, 14 September 1906.
Groom: Efráim Stern, Jewish, Talmud teacher, residence Szatmárnémeti, Zrinyi street number 45, birthplace Mihálydi, Szabolcs county, 20 January 1881, whom the below-written assistant registrar knows personally.
Father: Lébi Stern, chandler, Szatmárnémeti.
Mother: the late Lifse Schvarcz Mrs. Lébi Stern, homemaker, Szatmárnémeti.
Bride: Amália Goldberger, Jewish, homemaker, residence Szatmárnémeti, Zrinyi street number 45, birthplace Nagytárkány, 15 January 1880, whom the below-written assistant registrar knows personally.
Father: the late Ábrahám Goldberger, teacher, Nagytárkány.
Mother: Czilli Weiszberger widow Mrs. Ábrahám Goldberger, homemaker, Rahó, Máramaros county.
Witness: Tóbiás Schvarcz, teacher, Szatmárnémeti, Kölcsey street number 25, age 36 years, whom the below-written assistant registrar knows personally.
Witness: Zsigmond Freund, feather/pen merchant, Szatmárnémeti, Zrinyi street number 3, age 20 years, whom the below-written assistant registrar knows personally.
Read forth, approved, and signed
Stern Efrajem
Steren Efraimne Goldberger Aimalia.
9/8/2026 9:36 AM I ran your image past a couple of AI engines .... I am not a genealogist nor a Hungarian Reader/Speaker and there are some descrepancies as compared to the previous response however for what it's worth...

Prosopographical Analysis: Birth Entry #731 (1904)

1. Subject of the Entry (The Child)

Explicit Document Facts:

- Given Name: Leona
- Sex: Female (*leány*)
- Religion: Israelite (*izraelita*)
- Date of Birth:** November 16, 1904, at 6:00 PM (*délután 6 órája*)
- Place of Birth:** At the residence of the natural father (*a természetes atya lakása*)

Genealogical & Contextual Inferences:

- Paternal Surname Adoption: Although recorded under the mother's status initially due to civil vs. religious marriage laws, the father's explicit legal recognition means she likely carried the surname **Stern** (Leona Stern) in subsequent legal contexts.

- Legal Status at Birth:** Technically born out of civil wedlock as indicated by the phrase "natural father" and the paternity acknowledgment clause), though the parents may have been married via a religious Jewish (*chuppah*) ceremony, that was not officially recognized as a civil union by the Hungarian state at the time.


2. The Father / Declarant

Explicit Document Facts:

- Full Name: Efraim Stern
- Role: Declarant (*bejelentő*) and recognized natural father (*természetes atya*)
- Age: 23 years old in 1904 (calculated birth year: ~1881)
- Religion: Israelite (*izraelita*)
- Occupation: Talmud teacher (*talmud tanító*) / Tailor (*szabócs*)
- Residence: Érmihályfalva, Bihar County
- Place of Birth: Mihálydi (likely Mihăileni, Romania / Nyírmihálydi, Hungary).
- Actions: Appeared in person on November 21, 1904, declared the birth, acknowledged paternity, and signed the register.

Genealogical & Contextual Inferences:

- Socio-Religious Profile: Serving as a Talmud teacher (*talmud tanító*) indicates literacy, religious education, and an active role within the local Orthodox or Neolog Jewish community.

- Geographic Origin: Born around 1881 in Mihálydi, Szabolcs county ,suggesting movement within the Austro-Hungarian border regions before settling in Érmihályfalva./Szatmár-Németi
- Residence details cited in the body of the document dated 1904 (when Leona was born) and the marginal notes added in 1906 (when Ephraim married Rina) suggesting that in 1904 Ephraim was resident in Érmihályfalva, Bihar County,(https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Érmihályfalva) whereas in 1906 he was resident in Szatmárnémeti (https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szatmárnémeti) In 1906, Szatmár-Németi: Present-day - Satu Mare, Romania was part of the Kingdom of Hungary, which explains the Hungarian official record. The reference to Alsószamospart/Alsó-panapard ("lower Szamos riverbank") number 16, probably refers to the Somes River which runs through Satu Mare (Szatmárnémeti) (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Someș+River)

3. The Mother

Explicit Document Facts:

- Full Name: Rina Goldberger (also recorded as Rima)
- Age: 23 years old in 1904 (calculated birth year: ~1881)
- Religion: Israelite (*izraelita*)
- Occupation: Domestic servant (*házi szolga*)
- Residence: Residence of the natural father (Érmihályfalva)
- Place of Birth:** Nagykároly (Nagy-Károly)

Genealogical & Contextual Inferences:

- Co-habitation:Living at the father's address demonstrates an established household, supporting the likelihood of an unrecorded civil or purely religious marriage.
-Geographic Origin: Originating from Nagykároly (present-day Carei, Romania) (Nagy-Tárkány ?), a significant Jewish cultural center in the region, reflecting regional migration along trade/community networks.


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9/8/2026 9:37 AM continues from .....


4. Local & Institutional Framework

Explicit Document Facts:

- Jurisdiction: Érmihályfalva, Bihar County, Kingdom of Hungary (present-day Valea lui Mihai, Bihor County, Romania).
- Registration Date: November 21, 1904 (5 days after the birth).
- Official: Deputy Civil Registrar (*helyettes anyakönyvvezető*).

Genealogical & Contextual Inferences:

- Post-1895 Hungarian Civil Registration: Reflects the 1894 legal reform mandate requiring mandatory state civil registration regardless of religious affiliation, leading to frequent formal acknowledgments of natural paternity when religious-only marriages took place.
9/9/2026 11:27 AM The AI is hallucinating freely and prolifically.

For example: time of birth is crystal clearly written dél _előtt_ 6: _before_ noon, i.e., 6 a.m.

Don't rely on computers to read handwriting. They are nowhere near there yet.
9/9/2026 12:36 PM Important: don't use the AI's places, it was apparently choosing at random from a gazetteer.

The father's birthplace of Mihálydi in Szabolcs county is now Nyírmihálydi in Szabolcs-Szatmár-Bereg county, Hungary, and his residence is exactly the same as the place of registration: Szatmárnémeti.
The mother's birthplace of Nagytárkány was in Zemplén county and is now Veľké Trakany in Slovakia.

And don't believe the computer about occupations: _szatócs_ "chandler, shopkeeper, grocer" has negative zero connection to tailoring. The actual word for "tailor" is _szabó_, which never ends in 'cs'. (Really. Never.)

(For the mother's occupation, it accidentally ended up in the right place, but via an incorrect route: the document actually says _házi cseléd_ "housemaid, domestic", not _házi szolga_ "servant of a house".)

9/10/2026 8:19 AM ah ... but look at it this way .... the AI response has triggered all this "constructive" feedback ... without which how would we know what needs improving ....

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