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Submitted by Pierre M Hahn

Information Picture Question
Category: Photo Identification
Approval Date: 1/31/2018 3:18 PM
Family Surname: HECHT
Country: France
Town: Paris
Date of Image: That is the question
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I would like your estimate of the year this photo was taken based on the children's ages. From left to right the DOBs are 1867, 1866, 1863.

The identities of the children are:Jeanne, Louise and Ernest, parents are Myrtil HECHT (1838-98) and Emilie HELBRONNER (1843-1911).

I will average the multiple responses.

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1/14/2018 5:43 PM Hello Pierre,

All of the youngsters appear to be somewhere between the ages of 12 - 20. So based on the years of birth that you have provided, here is my educated guess:

Left - girl - 12 yrs. (1867)
Middle - girl - 13 yrs. (1866)
Right - boy - 16 yrs. (1863)

Allow a leeway of plus/minus 2 years.....Jo
1/15/2018 11:08 AM I would guess that the picture was taken around 1877-1878. The girls' skirts are well above their ankles, and their hair is down, so they're probably under 13. The boy shows no sign of facial hair and hasn't hit a growth spurt yet (they may have had him sitting because otherwise his little sister would be nearly his height), so he's probably under 15. On the other hand, none of them are dressed as small children: there are no sailor suits or toys in evidence. They're also all wearing adult-style shoes with a hint of heel, so they're probably all at least 10 years old.
1/15/2018 3:00 PM Hello Pierre,

Based on my previous response, my estimated date for this picture would be between 1879 and 1883.

It is possible that they are a few years older than my estimate, in which case, the photo could have been taken a few years later.

Two possibilities: 1) they might be younger in appearance, but older in years. 2) something about the appearance of their clothing seems to suggest a later year rather than an earlier one.....Jo
2/1/2018 3:05 AM The youngest girl looks at least 13.
2/1/2018 10:40 AM Hi Pierre,

As a recently-retired school teacher, I believe I have a realistic visual sense of age with young people. I'm placing the year of this photo, 1880, which puts the younger sister at age 13 (a somewhat awkward age of just beginning puberty). The elder sister, 17, is visually more mature, but still young enough to be wearing matching sibling outfits with her sister, and the 14 year old brother will, within 2-3 years certainly have some facial-hair. Again, my thought is that this photo dates from the year 1880.
2/1/2018 12:32 PM Hello Pierre -
I showed this photograph to a friend who has been a middle school teacher and administrator for many years. Her opinion is the same as the 2/1/18 10:40 a.m. response from the retired teacher.
2/1/2018 12:33 PM My guess would be L to R: Girl 14, G 15 and boy 13 or 14
2/1/2018 5:12 PM If the photo contains a name and address of the photography studio, than you might check old city directories to see when the photographer was working out of that address. Depending on how long he worked at that address, this may or may not help you date the photo.
Also, keep in mind that photo studios used props for these pictures, not only the furniture, but they also provided clothing to be worn in the photo. This may or may not have been the case in this particular photo, but is a possibility.

2/1/2018 11:59 PM 14, 16 and 12.
2/2/2018 2:09 AM Hi P.,
Before I looked at other responses, my first thought was:
Are you sure of their years of birth - because the boy doesn't look 3 years older than the elder girl?
Then I thought: in which months were they born (since January of one year and December of another is pretty well 2 years apart)?
But broadly, I went 12, 13 and 16 - or 13, 14, 16 (depending on months).
Hope this helps, Joyaa

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