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Information Picture Question
Category: Photo Identification
Approval Date: 6/15/2016 4:20 PM
Family Surname: KATZ
Country: Poland
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I suppose this could be a picture of my father's brother. But can anyone tell me what sort of uniform it is and to which dates it could correspond ? They lived in Kobylnica Ruska, near Wylkie Ocszy and Lemberg.

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6/19/2016 5:18 PM Collar design is distinctive for Polish Army circa WWI

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6/30/2016 1:58 AM Dear Rose! I am not a specialist, but I had to deal with similar photos, so I know a few things which I would like to share. First, I believe both picture show the same man. This picture is chronologically the later one (number 2). It is a Polish army uniform, a gala uniform, and the uniform of an army officer. The pair of trousers were for officers only and the broad-edged collar patches prove his rank (officer) also. Because the ribbon colour on his legs is bright, it could have been yellow - the colour of the airforce. The pilots of Lemberg/Lwow were famous! But I might be wrong, as the ribbon looks like a combi of two colours (a better scan of the regiment number on his shoulders could be a hint, the numbers look rounded: 22, 32, 52, 88 etc.). The shape of the collar (acute-angled) existed only from the early 1930's and the bellow-shaped lower pocket of his jacket were introduced only in 1927. Therefore this photo was taken - in my opinion - between 1927 and 1937. You should write to the Polish War Archive in Warsaw as they might instantly know what kind of soldier that is and with his name attached you might even get a copy of his personal record file! Apart from the regiment number and the ribbon colour, there is the "korpusowka", a tiny pin or symbol attached to the kollar patch, which gives a hint towards his unit. He could also have been a cavallerist, in case a better scan would prove the symbol hidden in the center of that broad-edged collar patch is a flag, like that: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wFuyN16kqQ0/TodTzR0vPzI/AAAAAAAAAu0/XVJKpPEZTE4/s1152/PICT1345.JPG.
Here are a few more links for you. This shows the Polish uniforms after the reform of 1935: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mundur_Wojska_Polskiego_II_RP
Here is the main text, but it is in Polish and I understand only little: http://www.1939.pl/uzbrojenie/polskie/mundur/mundur_ii_rp.html.
Another link showing the possible collar patches for a cavalry officer, which could correspond to the big/long sword (or palash?) from the other (older) photo maybe. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wXN1dRUeD9w/VtWT9OgORsI/AAAAAAAAAFg/9qJJc7gx_pI/s800-Ic42/IMG_9793.JPG
Here is the website of the war archive/CAW, in Warsaw: http://caw.wp.mil.pl/en/index.html.
And finally two links were you might find a few more experts: 1) http://pik.wroclaw.pl/Bro-biaa-onierza-polskiego-XVIII-XX-w-wy-w20455.html, 2) Treasure hunters and Private Militia collectors: http://odkrywca.pl/forum.php

Good luck and all my best wishes, Alex (FRANZ) in Mainz/Germany
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