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Submitted by Barrie Lynn Karp, PhD

Information Picture Question
Category: Photo Identification
Approval Date: 11/11/2015 4:10 PM
Family Surname:
Country: Romania
Town: Iasi
Date of Image: late 19th c.
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My be photo of ggf,Yitzak Wien.

Significance of the head wear -- any different meaning fr skullcap type yarmulke? Seek cultural info, eg, locality, affiliations, customs

Question: where,when photo taken? US? Europe? No markings on photo. Was kept with photo of woman who probably is ggm(wife), Leie/Lea/Lena Berkowitz Wien, b. ab. 1860 in "AustroPoll" came US fr Iasi, Romania 1902; died Jan 1923 NYC (Bronx), buried Maspeth, LI by s-i-l & 1 of her daughters. Unproven family story: he traveled to NYC ahead of wife w sick child, turned away at Ellis Island bc of sick child. Their last child was born Iasi 1901; Lea arrived US widow, Nov 23, 1902, several months after 3 of their children arr'd NY June/July 1902. Two of their other children arr'd NY from Iasi: 1 in 1901 (Annie); 1 1900 (Regina, my gm). They all departed from Rotterdam, as did all my other ancestors who came to US/NY from Iasi, Romania.

Identify man in photo?
Thank you very much.
Barrie Karp, barriekarp@gmail.com

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On  Response 
11/2/2015 12:38 AM AS far as I can tell this is just a typical skullcap. I recall my grandfather wearing this type as well. My feeling is that they stayed on the head better than the round, flatter ones common today that might tend to slip off, especially if working with head bent.

Hope that helps,

Madeleine
11/2/2015 3:38 AM I must agree with the first responder. My maternal ggf also wore a similar skull cap in a family picture that dates back to the late 1800's/early 1900's taken in Sucha, Poland.
11/2/2015 6:31 AM It is noticeable that his coat and vest are made to be buttoned with the right side over the left, which is a chassidic custom. The more formal raised cap was common in some parts of Russia, in other places it denoted a rabbinical or quasi rabbinical role (such as shochet, chazan, melamed etc.) The style of the photograph with the rounded border was common in central Europe.
11/2/2015 11:07 AM I have a photo of my great grandfather S Friedman taken ca 1900 in Botosani, Romania and he wears the same type of cap. He was born in Galicia ca 1844. Another point -- AustriPoll could be Ostropol in Ukraine not far from Moldavia, Iasi.
11/3/2015 3:45 AM This is a rabbinic style yarmulke.
11/3/2015 5:35 AM I agree with the previous answers. This skullcap was typical for a rabbi in Romania as well. Can't tell much about the garb, as what is today known as Hassidic garb was actually regular garb also for Polish nobility. In any case the photo is of a 'respectable' fellow who could afford a photograph of himself only. (Usually photos were taken at family events). A photo like this might have been needed for a certificate of some sort. The oval frame is typical of the period. I must mention that it was usual to have a stamp of the photographer on the back.
11/3/2015 8:23 AM I agree with previous responders. I would add only that with the pendant -- probably-- watch in his vest, and his attire, he is very middle class. If he is not a Rabbi, he is someone important in the community, a "gvir".
11/3/2015 4:47 PM This is an old fashioned yarmulke like from central and eastern Europe. The suit is in very good condition and he is well groomed. As far as he looks religious, all of us were then. My guess is that this photo was taken in NYC.

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