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Category: Translation - Other
Approval Date: 3/3/2013 4:44 PM
Family Surname: Sachs, Bercovici
Country: Austria
Town: Vienna
Date of Image: around 1897
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This Osmanic document has probably been issued in Vienna by the consulate of the Osmanic (Turkish)Empire. The occasion could have been a journey of Fanny Sachs, née Bercovici from Vienna to Boucharest, her town of origin, then part of the Osmanic Empire.
I would appreciate any help with deciphering, dating, translating this text. Or any information, which language this is. Thanks!

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3/5/2013 5:01 AM The document is likely in Turkish or Arabic, languages I do not know. My observation refers to the year - in 1897 Romania has been independent of the Ottoman Empire for about 20 years. So likely if indeed has the stated purpose should be dated earlier.

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY
3/5/2013 7:56 AM I'm guessing, but it looks like it might be written in Osmanlica, the language during the Ottoman Empire. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmanlica and http://www.sephardicstudies.org/osmanlica.html for more information about Ottoman documents. I have an Ottoman identity document of my aunt's mother, but unfortunately have been having trouble finding someone to translate it from Osmanlica. The language is a combination of Turkish, Arabic, and Persian.
3/8/2013 3:41 PM The translation of Ottoman Turkish documents poses a considerable challenge to the genealogist, because the language and the script are now obsolete. It is therefore very unlikely to find somebody who can read the language via ViewMate. There was a similar request recently here at ViewMate, and no solution was finally found. However, Ottoman Turkish is a subject taught at universities. As a start, I would suggest contacting a scholar and ask for suggestions of how to proceed. I picked a few scholars at random from the internet:

Halil Inalcik, Ph.D., Pofessor, Department of History, Bilkent University
inalcik@bilkent.edu.tr

Sinasi Tekin, Dr.Phil.,, Senior Lecturer on Turkish, Harvard University.
stekin@fas.harvard.edu

Dr Laurent Mignon, University Lecturer in Turkish; Fellow in Turkish, Middle East Centre, St Antony’s College, Oxford University
laurent.mignon@orinst.ox.ac.uk

Kuru, Selim, Ph.D; Associate Professor Ottoman language and literature and modern Turkish, Univrsity of Washington
selims@u.washington.edu

or find more via Google using the keywords Ottoman and Professor.

It would be nice to report your success here for others to benefit.
AS
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