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Category: Interpretation
Approval Date: 11/14/2012 4:10 PM
Family Surname: HoH is RAU
Country: USA
Town: St. Louis, MO
Date of Image: 1880 US census
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I cannot make out the name of the third person listed (male in both cases). Both images are from the 1880 US census of St. Louis Missouri. Both are immigrants from Germany. I'm trying to decide if it is the same family enumerated twice. The third person is listed as a boarder, and may be a relative of the RAU family. I hope more experienced eyes can decipher the name or names.

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11/15/2012 1:04 AM It's a good bet that it's the same folks enumerated twice. The 3rd person was named Elkan HARRIS or something like that, and there may have been some struggle in reading original handwriting and then entering the information into the final census sheet.
11/15/2012 1:34 AM Hello John,

Here's what I see....

lst set
Rau Daniel, white male 28 yrs.
(Blank)Johanna, white female 28 yrs.
Harris Elcan, white male 27 yrs.

2nd set
Rau Daniel, white male 38 yrs.
(Blank)Johanna, white female 29 yrs.
Harris Aleken/Alekem, white male 28 yrs.

It appears that they could very well be the same three people. If both segments of information are from the 1880 census, it makes no sense that this was completed by different census takers/clerks (different writing and different spelling of names).

As for the third name, it seems that this could be a variation on Aleichem (such as in Sholom Aleichem) It could be a given first name or a surname...Jo.

11/15/2012 1:48 AM I looked at the images of the whole census sheet for both records on Ancestry.com. At the top of the sheet dated June 10th 1880, which is page 314C, There is a stamp August 16,'80, and a stamp "FIRST ENUMERATION REJECTED". The enumerator's work was not satisfactory.
From the June 10, 1880 record, the Ancestry.com transcriber, has:
D. Rau 38
Johanna Rau 28
Eleen Harris 27
From the November 8, 1880 record, the Ancestry.com transcriber has:
Daniel Rau 38
Johanna Rau 29
Ale Ken Harrin 28
I believe these are the same three people, enumerated twice. I think the SURNAME of the third person was probably HARRIS or Herrin.


11/15/2012 9:05 AM Could the boarder's first name be some shortened form of Alexander /Alexis?

If these two boarders are the same man, enumerated at two different times (and addresses, both associated with this family), what underlying Yiddish / Hebrew / German name would be rendered phonetically in these two ways?

It looks to me as if each name begins with similar sounds ("Ele" and ""Ale") and might end with "ken" or "sn". With some imagination I could imagine Aleken and Elesn might be the same name.

Aleichem has been suggested but as far as I know that only is a pen surname taken from a greeting.

As for the surname, how about "Harris" for the top image and "Harriss" for the bottom image?

The surname "Hirsh" or "Hirsch" also is associated with this family. Could Harris / Harris be a version of Hirsh?
11/15/2012 3:25 PM I'd suggest Elkan (a variation of Elchanan) as the first name for the last person. It looks like it was spelled phonetically as Elcan and the first and then Alekan or something like that in the second. The last name looks like Harris to me.
11/17/2012 2:20 AM Hello John,

Just check the JewishGen Given Name Database and found the following information for you.

Under the names for the country of Germany, Elkan is shown to be a local shortened form or nickname for Elchanan. One of the people to respond did suggest Elchanan, so I believe that you are on the right track.

You would probably find it interesting to check this out for yourself on the Given Name Database under the Eastern European section....and then search further under the Germany option for Elkan. If you are unable to access this information, please feel free to let me know and I will try to help out with this.....Jo
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